Post by BethGlad to see you still have a perfectly balanced personality...that is to say
a chip on both shoulders. I had you on my kill list but hey you change your
posting service so you reappear....like a troll you always say you are not.
How many times have you changed your isp/posting service...I know this is
not just a one off....
Actually... I change my e-mail address periodically to avoid the inbox
getting loaded with spam. If you want to kill file me permanently just use
my name instead of the address.
Post by BethOver time I have watched you go from patronising to asserting to dictating
to abusing and then to threatening people in these newsgroups. You claim to
be such an expert in tg affairs but are such an amateur in human affairs
where a bit of flexibility on your part would go a long way to reducing
personal criticism of yourself.
And how much flexibility would you have me engage in?
If I listen to one group of people I'd be advocating the "life without
explanation" concept. Another group would have me telling people to dig a
new basement under their closets. Still another group would have me
advising that everyone should be totally out to everyone they meet. And yet
another would oppose me no matter what I said.
So tell me PLEASE, just what position should I take?
Post by BethFor someone who is so experienced in tg affairs you project such
an image of being a victim, which is so not what transgendered people are.
The result of 10 years on the wrong end of a very ambitious stalker, hon.
I know you haven't SEEN it here... but believe me it did happen and it's
still happening.
Post by BethTo be happy with the transgendered aspects of our life we must accept our
own responsibility for our lives and subsequent actions and take control.
Yep.
Post by BethYour behaviour in these newsgroups seems completely contrary to this model
and contrary to what you espouse.
Not at all... My single most adamant suggestion to anyone is that they take
charge of their lives. Coming out is one way to do this, as is working on
self-acceptance, self-esteem and internal validations.
Post by BethYour own actions and words portray you as the victim and you hit out
agressively and often indiscriminately. You smash people who don't agree
with you, you hit out at those who point out your clay feet. Do you wonder
why you get abuse ?
Sweetie, there is HISTORY here that you've obviously not been privy to.
Take Stephe for example... from your perspective she's a newbie who just
showed up a couple of weeks ago. In reality she has a 6 year history on
these newsgroups; and a not too pretty tendency to let people lead her
around by the nose. She started out a deeply closeted transvestite and a
lot of people put a lot of time into helping her... she gets listening to a
bunch of fuckups and this is the thanks we get.
Post by BethYou talk about tg rights yet show no respect for other people on this
newsgroup by invading their privacy, talking all over them and using foul
language to intimidate when arguments fail.
Look again.
I have a personal policy... I NEVER draw first blood. But I also don't back
away from a bully. Yes it sometimes leads to conflict... but it's also part
of being in control of your own life.
Post by BethI agree a small percentage like
Amanda....also on my kill list would make a saint swear but you are no angel
and Amanda has not been the only recipient of abuse from yourself.
Once again... there is HISTORY here, to which you are obviously not privy.
For example here's Stephe's posting history...
http://www.google.ca/groups?safe=images&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&as_ugroup=alt.support.crossdressing&as_uauthors=stephe&as_scoring=d&lr=&hl=en
Go back a to the late 1990s and have a look... you'll see that she is
singing the exact same song today as she did back then. She has a rather
nasty habit of always siding with the flamers. Fool actually used to invite
them into the group, knowing full well what they'd do. It's always the same
thing with her... "Why are you taking hormones", "You're contradicting
yourself" and "Why can't you see things the way I say you should"... She's
been spewing the same bullshit for nearly 8 YEARS, Beth.
Then there's Diane Fuckwit Lask:
http://groups.google.com/groups?as_ugroup=alt.support.crossdressing&as_uauthors=diane%20&hl=en
http://groups.google.com/groups?as_ugroup=alt.support.srs&as_uauthors=diane%20&hl=en
http://groups.google.com/groups?as_ugroup=soc.support.transgendered&as_uauthors=diane%20&hl=en
http://groups.google.com/groups?as_ugroup=alt.fashion.crossdressing&as_uauthors=diane%20&hl=en
http://groups.google.com/groups?as_ugroup=alt.support.intergendered&as_uauthors=diane%20&hl=en
That's about 15,000 pieces of hate mail.
I know you make a big deal out of making up your own mind... But, honey, you
can't do that with only a tiny fraction of the needed information. There
are hostilities and injustices here that have been going on for MORE THAN A
DECADE ... you can't possibly get the whole picture without looking at the
history.
Post by BethI hope anyone reading this post will understand that when I came into these
newsgroups I talked to Laura and did recieve some helpful words of advice.
And you would still be getting that same courtesy if you hadn't suddenly
decided I was fresh shit on a sidewalk. Like so many others, you've jumped
to blaming me *because everyone else is blaming me* but you haven't really
taken the time to discover what's actually going on.
Post by BethUnfortunately, over time the negative sides of Laura's personality have also
appeared.
And what do you expect when I'm being *constantly* set upon for my every
word?
Post by BethHer inability to accept that she is part of the problem stops her
from also accepting that she is also part of the solution.
Oh I know I'm part of the problem here. Thing is, in real life I could deal
with this crap in a matter of a few minutes... here there's simply no way to
stop the fuckups from playing their asinine games.
Post by BethShe does not see
why she has to adapt to the world but King Canute thought he could hold back
the tide too. It is a shame that the good that Laura could do is lost
because of how she chooses to deliver the message.
You might want to consider your own position in this.
Are you really helping end this bullshit or are you simply taking a
backhanded way of encouraging it?
-----
L D Blake